Talk:Ranger/@comment-220.235.188.64-20180808181628

Standard Rangers seem kind of gimped to me. I cant think of any reason why you would want to charm animals instead of killing them for xp, and the hide in shadows ability is cumbersome and doesnt even give a large bonus (plus you have armor restrictions to even use it).

A few low level spells is really not worth the bonuses a normal fighter has, especially since you want your warriors to spend as much time attacking as possible rather than casting some low level spells which get obsolete at higher levels.

Stalker seems flat out inferior to any kind of fighter/thief dual or multi-class combination and beastmaster just seems like a gimped druid. Why would you want to waste your time summoning some low level enemies that will just get killed in one fireball or neutralized via spells like horror or confusion due to low saves?

Archer seems to be the only decent option here.