Talk:Lich/@comment-2.110.79.145-20171127042134/@comment-2.10.128.52-20181024161830

Pierce magic only affect protections against spells, while Breach affects physical protections and specific ones like those from the elements. There's no layers of protections beyond Spell Shield to "start stripping", mage protections are only layered like onions in the SCS mod.

Once a mage has been Breach-ed, he is vulnerable to physical attacks period. And the critical bit about liches is that there's nothing to replace Breach against which they are immune. In theory, Dispel and Remove magic can get rid of the same things (and more) as Breach, but these are level 3 spells so they probably don't work on liches either. (Not to mention that when liches are troublesome, they are usually too high level for the player to use dispel even if it worked)

On the SCS mod, things like "start stripping its defenses" make sense because Breach won't work unless spell protections are first taken down with spells like Pierce magic. But then, I think liches are vulnerable to Breach on SCS unless glitched.