Board Thread:Suggestions on Baldur's Gate Wiki/@comment-3234315-20191128083600/@comment-3234315-20191130110408

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CompleCCity wrote: Second topic, connected: area names

As much as I like proper spelling of all articles related to in-game things, meaning lower cases (that's why I started the category:Redirects with capitalization variants) opposed to the usual "each word for any item/spell/location/creature starts with an uppercase", we should care a bit about consistency. Area names are such a thing, and the games themselves are fairly inconsistent, having "generic homes" and "houses" and having "Character's Home/House".

What do you think about this?

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Hi.

Just noticed your tents-renamings. Above all else, even that Lua file, should go in-game names. The "Diviner's Tent" is labeled "The Fortune Teller" on map, that's why I gave that as location (without a link, though). So, "The Fortune Teller's tent" would be the better name in my opinion. (And The Fortune Teller already redirects to Haspur.)

As of this – any opinion on uppercase/lowercase spelling of generic, non-noted building names, such as "XYZ's H/h-ome"? I mentioned this on the thread … -- -- You talkin' to me? -- cCContributions -- 19:04, November 29, 2019 (UTC)


 * Two reasons I decided to make that change...first on Haspur's page, it begins saying "The Diviner, also known as the Fortune Teller Haspur," so I took it that he was understood as the Diviner. Second reason, its in-game name via console menu is Diviner's Marketplace Tent: https://i.imgur.com/PUBg7Y8.png
 * My opinion on generic homes is to capitalize their spelling, because they are becoming a sort of proper noun on this wiki via their entry. They are non-generic by virtue of being looked up by that name. I also believe this is fairly common wiki standards...anything deserving of its own page and heading tends to be capitalized in this way, across most wikis. A couple examples from other games:
 * https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Lumdala%27s_House
 * https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Heimskr%27s_House
 * Unclesporky (talk) 19:12, November 29, 2019 (UTC)
 * Unclesporky (talk) 19:12, November 29, 2019 (UTC)


 * Replying without having looked into further edits, the thread or my talk page …


 * Hehe, it's "in-game name via console menu" is "Diviner's marketplace tent". ;)


 * But – my opinion on those console names is to use them only in cases we don't have anything else to go with. First, it's only accessible for owners of the Enhanced Editions; second, it deviates for many areas from established or 'better' names; third, it adds unneeded stuff and comments, like the present NPCs, for example (and why did you make it "Diviner's Tent", omitting the "Marketplace"? ;)
 * I repeat, "above all else should go in-game names", though perhaps I was a bit inconsistent in the first, and "The Fortune Teller" as location would even suffice, without "Tent". (IIRC, that was even my intention when giving that as location and creating the redirect.)
 * "Diviner" is only his in-game tooltip name …
 * On a side note: I've started to add the console names as "Other names" on e.g. General Stores.


 * As for capitalization: there's a number of wikis handling this different. In fact, the mentioned Pillars of Eternity wiki has once started to move many, many things to lowercase spelling – without, however, this becoming common and general for all things, so that's a very incosistent example. Take a look at the Fallout wiki's capitalization guideline for what I have in mind (and I'm citing these two wikis as they are my origins of wikiing – sort of). Generic houses/homes, for example, use lowercase on Nukapedia and the Vault. Of course, this needs redirects with the other spelling.


 * Hm, this really should be in the thread … -- UserCCCSig.png -- You talkin' to me? -- cCContributions -- 10:40, November 30, 2019 (UTC)