Talk:Kensai/@comment-45026531-20200217155039/@comment-81.53.48.249-20200218234208

I went to that community to find out exactly in which conditions was Ascension's final fight beaten in solo and insane difficulty. Here's what a prominent member of it said in one of their posts:

"A few people have brought down [Ascension] Melissan using solo characters. I recently killed her using a Druid/Mage who combined some mod-introduced druid damage spells from IWD like Icelance with Improved Alacrity. In my LoB run, I used an Archer/Mage's Called Shot with the Scorcher Ammunition to kill her with STR drain. @Alesia_BH had a very solid strategy in which she removed the Five and then kited Melissan with a sling while using the Shield of Reflection to block her darts. @histamiini completed a solo LoB run with a Cleric/Mage, though I don't remember how he made it happen. @Harpagornis has also done it with a Bounty Hunter and Totemic Druid->Fighter, though I don't remember if the latter was done without reloading." I bolded the parts I consider not fitting to the kind of fair fight I meant. The last two contain no details, but no-reload runs tend to rely on consumables and pre-buffing a lot. While it *is* fun, it's not really fair to assess the strength of a character, it shows the player's planning ability and subtle knowledge of the game in the good cases, and consumable + pre-buff cheese in the "bad" cases.

Let's take another very strong class: If you can produce a video of a Sorcerer or single-classed Mage winning this fight in a way that shows the class strength fairly enough, that would be a nice watch! The strategy also has to be relatively resilient to bad luck, mistakes, detrimental bugs or bad timing, i.e. if you play 10 times you're going to win at least 8 times, preferably 10.

There is such a video with a Sorcerer on YouTube, a skilled player tried everything they could but failed. In the end they had to set immense amounts of Spell Traps and Delayed Fireballs to win. Anyone figuring out a good strategy can be proud, then.

I'm currently playing a Wild Mage. I'm a long way from the end of the game so my own attempt is not for today...