Talk:Chapter Seven/@comment-158.121.83.116-20190619142952

Not sure about the original edition, but I have had the misfortune in EE of discovering that there are other things that trigger the automatic death from Winski than allowing both Liia and Belt to die. I'm actually still trying to get past this point.

First, I discovered that casting web while the nobles are changing into doppelgangers is problematic. If some of them become trapped in the web before they change, Winski will appear and kill you, regardless of the status of Liia and Belt.

Second, if you try to protect one of them with Otiluke's Resilient Sphere, as soon as you advance to the point where Sarevok becomes hostile, again Winski will appear and kill you.

I'm not sure if there are other triggers for this. When I used ORS on Belt, Liia actually managed to survive as well, which suggests that something like ORS isn't needed there. I'm going to try again without it.

But yes, this fight is infuriating for these reasons. It forces the player to step out of the rpg side of the game and try to figure out the puzzle of its arbitrary rules for success.