Board Thread:Improvements and Suggestions/@comment-978785-20170829132627

So, since I came here and started doing a little ruckus changing/moving/creating pages and overall trying to improve the wiki, let me at least discuss one of the recent changes I decided to make.

Since I started to create the pages for generic NPCs, such as Commoner, I also decided to incorporate the existing Nobleman and splitting it to make a generic "Nobleman" page and then creating a separate page for the notable noblemen such as the pantaloons one (which already had page), but also the Candlekeep ones (which got a new page, as they only had a section in Nobleman with a short description). In the end, as far as nobleman goes I named the pages: Nobleman, Nobleman (Thurston), Nobleman (Christian), Nobleman (Quincy) and Nobleman (Golden Pantaloons).

Now the question is about naming. Since the creatures are referenced as simply "Nobleman" in game, I wanted it to be a first section of the page - so instead naming the pages simply "Thurston". "Christian" or "Quincy" I made the pages focusing on the actual in-game name – so the viewer clearly knows that the creature is not named "Thurtson", but actually "Nobleman", and their name can only be judged from dialogue lines he or she may not even see, depending on choices. However I also made redirects to their names, so if anyone goes to actual Thurston, Christian or Quincy pages will also gets to the page in question.

Now – with creatures that the names are told in dialogues/journal/whatever, I think having their name in parentheses and redirects is absolutely fine. However, there are some unique creatures that don't judge their names, for example the so-called Pantaloons Nobleman'. That is the name given by the community here, which isn't bad actually, but to be more uniform and not having to be creative with the namins for all unique creatures that don't tell their name, I thought about using the unique item name in parentheses instead. So, instead of naming the "Pantaloons Nobleman" a "Nobleman (pantaloons)" or even worse "Nobleman (Pantaloons Nobleman)", I decided to use the actual in-game name of the unique item he's related to: "Nobleman (Golden Pantaloons)". Of course, I also left the redirect from Pantaloons Nobleman, so the page can be easily accessed by someone searching for the term.

However, what do you community think about these changes? Is using the item in parentheses hit or miss? Also feel free to discuss the other changes of course, as that's what forums are for.

For the sake of being uniform, I also made changes and created other pages, following the style I explained above, let me list them all for clarity.
 * Commoner
 * Commoner (Joseph's wife) – wife is lowercased, as it's not a given creature name and Joseph's Wife is a journal entry name.
 * Nobleman
 * Nobleman (Thurston)
 * Nobleman (Christian)
 * Nobleman (Quincy)
 * Nobleman (Golden Pantaloons)
 * Noblewoman
 * Noblewoman (Thurston's wife)
 * Hobgoblin – for now it's redirect to Hobgoblin (fighter), but I'd like to move that to Hobgoblin eventually, though that require administrator's help.
 * Hobgoblin (archer)
 * Hobgoblin (Joia's Flamedance Ring) – with a redirect from Flamedance Hobgoblin
 * Hobgoblin (Boots of Stealth) – with a redirect from Hobgoblin Thief
 * Ogre
 * Ogre (girdle) – with a redirect from Girdle Ogre – decided not to use item name for this particular one, as he actually carries two unique girdles, but feel free to comment. 