Talk:Wild Surge/@comment-81.53.48.249-20200211142532

I had a Wild surge roll of 97, "Spell cast, +4 save". It's one of the few hardcoded surges which aren't accessible from Near Infinity. It seems that the text description might be more correct than the Wiki: It might actually a +4 bonus granted to the victim of the spell, rather than a penalty.

The reason I'm questioning the Wiki on this is that the logs showed:

(DEMPRI.CRE) Save vs spell: 19

(DEMFIG01.CRE) Save vs spell: 21

(DEMFIG02.CRE) Save vs spell: 24

(DEMMAG.CRE) Save vs spell: 16

I added the creatures file names for inquiry.

Can the logs display more than 20 in normal conditions ? The 4 targets of this Horrid Wilting cast from a Reckless Dweomer at level 12 were under Great Malison (-4 malus to saving throws), but I would edge towards saying that logs do not account for Great Malison and the maximum roll should still be 20, not 16. But with a +4 bonus, it might be accounted for and bumped to 24. (The penalty would be used to move the threshold for a successful roll, whereas the malus would be used directly on the defender's roll ?)

If this is correct, then victims of wild surge #97 get a bonus, not a penalty, and the Wiki needs fixing.