Talk:The Claw of Kazgaroth/@comment-50.72.253.114-20150925213427/@comment-83.254.40.172-20160409100011

Oh, and one more thing. A Shorty with 18 con would lose not just 2 hp/level (if a warrior, none otherwise ofc), but also 1 of each saving throw. So while the -4 to death saving throws would indeed be offset to +/-0, it's worth remembering that the costs for a high-con shorty using this item is actually greater than for someone with mediocre con - it does provide a more balanced approach than min-maxing.

Oh and obviously using it on a 20 con character (like Korgan or a dwarf warrior PC who's used the manual of bodily health) you do not lose any shorty saves (they max out at 18) but you DO lose your natural health regeneration, which I personally love way too much!